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         <title>Dr. Rob&apos;s Simple Advice to Ladies so You Don&apos;t Get Dumped</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p><em>Dear Dr. Rob,</p>

<p>After you wrote <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/dr_robs_simple_advice_on_how_t.phtml">this post for men</a> I thought for sure we'd see a follow-up for the female readers, something to help us in our relationships with our boyfriends.  And yet, nothing!  Do I have to go to Dr. Phil for good advice?</em></p>

<p><em>Lynn</em></p>

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Let the word go forth and make no mistake: if anyone here takes Dr. Phil's advice over mine, she will be banned from this website forever, never to return.  Banished for life.</p>

<p>A few years ago a large portion of my clientele was women, aged 21-35 or so.  Most of them had what seemed to be potentially great relationships with their boyfriends.  However, all the women had a common feature: a need for excessive attention from their boyfriends and a constant reassurance of the relationship's stability.  <br />
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         <title>Groundhog Day</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>During my post-doctoral training I was fortunate enough to be educated at a prestigious hospital in upstate New York.  My office overlooked an executive golf course and lots of small, rolling hills and greenery.  Albeit slightly pretentious, the whole campus smacked of top-shelf, brand name mental health riches.</p>

<p>On the grounds of the hospital were lots of groundhogs who seemed to patrol the campus, almost like sentinels.  My fellow students and I called them Land Monsters [1].  We often tried to pet them - despite the potential diseases they carried - but they would never allow us to get too close before scurrying off to safer pastures.  But when you saw them from your office chewing on leaves or grass, you felt at peace.  <em>Top notch training, a killer office, wild beasts running amok.  This is what it's all about.</em></p>

<p>One day I received a call from a client who was an avid animal lover.  Her cat had just been diagnosed with a terminal illness and had only a short time to live.  She lived at least an hour away and since I only had a small number of open therapy slots that day it seemed prudent to <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/phone_therapy_goes_awry.phtml">have a telephone session</a> right then and there.<br />
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         <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:23:09 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>A Legitimate Beef or Simply Hating on the Shrink?</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago I performed a <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/death_threats.phtml">weight loss surgery evaluation</a> on a young man, 25 years of age [1].  For reasons that I cannot go into, he was clearly unprepared for the extensive lifestyle changes that were required of him to make the surgery successful.  When he was informed that my recommendation would be that he would need to need to get both nutritional and psychological counseling he blew a gasket.  He hemmed and hawed, threatened to call the licensing board, promised to have his check for the service canceled, and called me a "dripping gay wad."  That seemed like such an infantile and unusual insult for a mid-20's man to throw out so I looked it up.  I found nothing.</p>

<p>The next day I got a call from the man's mother.  She was equally upset because the surgical team had, in fact, decided to delay surgery.  I immediately explained to her the following:</p>

<p>- Because her son was an adult, I was unwilling to go into extensive detail about her son's case.  He could explain that information to her himself should he choose to.  </p>

<p>- Her son was not disqualified from having the procedure; rather, that he was required to have further counseling to make him a more viable surgical candidate.</p>

<p>- I was not a "dripping gay wad," whatever that meant.  </p>

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Rather than listening to my points, however, she simply called me a charlatan and accused me of purposely denying her son the chance to have multiple medical problems corrected for my own personal gain [2].</p>

<p>This is where I lost it.  What possible motive, by any stretch of the imagination, would I have to temporarily deny a morbidly obese man a surgical procedure that would clearly improve both his health and quality of life?  Why, on Earth, would I do such a thing?  Because I'm against the procedure in general?  If I were anti-surgery I wouldn't be <em>part of a surgical weight loss team</em>.  Because I wanted to mandate further sessions with me for financial gain?  Hardly.  Not only do denied patients rarely come back to see me specifically due to being pissed off, but there are plenty of other Psychologists in this city who are better, cheaper and move conveniently located.  Because I get off on making people angry?  The man's name wasn't <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/anger.phtml">Dr. Steve</a> so wrong again.<br />
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         <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:55:47 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>I Think Strange Things</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Before <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/book_jacket.phtml">writing group</a> started this week one of the members was discussing her 11-year old son.  Specifically she was talking about the changes she's noticed at his age in the areas of verbal and cognitive abilities.<br />
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"He's a very smart kid," she said, "much more verbal.  But his friend, whom I just recently met, is ridiculously sharp.  He's 11 as well but is just incredibly astute and witty.  He's like an adult."<br />
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I raised my hand.  Given that there were only four of us, that was kind of a stupid gesture.<br />
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"Yes, Rob?" the woman said.<br />
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"Is it possible that your son's friend, given that he's so smart, is perhaps not a child, but rather a very intelligent midget, possibly a pygmy?"<br />
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Another woman from the group looked at me with a confused laugh.  "I thought that, given you're a shrink, you might say something psychologically insightful.  Boy was I mistaken.  Do you always think such strange things?"<br />
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<em>Sadly, I do</em>.<br />
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If you'd like to read more asinine muses such as that one feel free to <a href="http://twitter.com/DrRobD">follow me on Twitter by clicking here</a>.  You'll probably regret it and end up deleting me from your account at some point, but you'll never know until you take the plunge. </p>

<p>For those who are interested, Twitter will be the best way to hear quick updates on how <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/an_announcement_1.phtml">the book</a> is coming along.  <br />
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         <title>HotWheelz and Dr. Rob: Together at Last</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Hotwheelz and I decided to chew the rag a bit on how we go about writing about difficult topics such as mental illness and physical disabilities.  Somehow we just ended up talking about ourselves, however.  What I learned though is that this young man is a trooper and has a lot of great things to say.  Below is an excerpt, check out the first part of a <a href="http://www.loveonwheelz.net/archives/post.phtml">conversation here</a>:</p>

<blockquote><strong>Dr. Rob</strong>: At a young age I developed a knack for poking fun at myself without sacrificing dignity.  I was lucky enough to know that I'm inherently flawed in many, many ways, so I thought by acknowledging my imperfections and having fun with them I could take away their potency.  Ironically I think it helps my self-esteem.  I always grapple with people who are elitists and narcissists because I'm constantly thinking, "everyone, except you of course, knows that you're just as fucked up as the rest of us.  Why can't you see that?"</blockquote>
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         <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:08:52 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>Screw up Your Kid: Teach Him to Fear the World</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>I was standing outside one of the hospitals where I do consulting work, sipping a coffee. After a very long week that included working with two suicidal clients I was secretly hoping my beverage would magically transform into a whiskey.  But no luck.  </p>

<p>A small boy, three years old at most, started ambling toward me in that zigzag way toddlers walk.  I don't think he was coming at me per se, as I'm told I give off a vibe to children that screams STAY AWAY!  This is probably true because I'm very much afraid of small children.  I can't exactly figure out why this is, although part of me thinks that if I come in contact with one and hold it, I'll end up dropping and breaking it.</p>

<p>The toddler wasn't in any real danger as we were on a secluded street without a lot of traffic.  But as the child moved farther from his mother, she began to angrily shout.  "You stop!  If you don't come back here bad people will get you and hurt you and take you away forever!"  The child started crying, turned around, and ran back.</p>

<p>I really wanted to punch the woman in the face.  I loathe poor parenting, and this was uneducated child rearing at its worst.  Yes, toddlers should not be roaming free along the streets of New York City.  Yes, children are kidnapped every day.  And yes, sometimes children are very recalcitrant, causing parents to lose their tempers.  So what is the problem?<br />
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         <title>Pornography and Adult Relationships</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago, a married couple I was working with in therapy got into a heated debate about the use of pornography in their relationship.  Contrary to what you might think, it was the woman who enjoyed watching porn on the internet while her husband found it unacceptable.  Apparently they would argue about porn's merits, or lack thereof, for hours on end throughout the week.</p>

<p>"What's the big deal?  It's just sex.  Fun sex!  We should watch it together, spruce things up."</p>

<p>"Absolutely not!  It's completely unhealthy and I don't want that in our lives."</p>

<p>Over and over, day after day.  Ultimately the woman won out, as she simply watched porn when her husband wasn't home.  It's not like he could stop her, so he simply tried his best to ignore that the issue existed.  This, however, left him feeling bitter and resentful.   <br />
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         <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:57:12 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>Dr. John has an Ethical Dilemma</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>I received this email from John:</p>

<p>To: RDobrenski@aol.com<br />
From: XXXXX@gmail.com<br />
Subject: Fuck!</p>

<p>A guy came into the office today for an initial appointment due to work problems.  As we talked about his current situation, he mentioned that a positive in his life is his new girlfriend.  Apparently he's been with this woman for about three months.  As he started to describe her (e.g., job, personality, looks) I realized she sounded an awful lot like XXXXXX!!!!!!!!  And, sure enough, when I asked him what her name was, he said, "XXXXXX!!!!!!!!"  My patient is dating my ex-girlfriend!  I didn't say anything to the guy and he's already made a 2nd appointment.  What do you think?  I'd ask you not to put this on your dumb website but I'm sure that's a waste of time.</p>

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Here is my reply:<br />
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         <pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 21:17:55 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>My New Therapist Friend is Awesome</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>There are generally three scenarios when I will directly address loud patients in the waiting room of my office suite:</p>

<p>1) They are bothering the client who is currently in my office<br />
2) They are bothering me<br />
3) I am in a very bad mood </p>

<p>Reason # 3 has only happened one time in my entire career, and I apologized soon afterwards.  Numbers 1 and 2, though, aren't unheard of by any stretch.  Therapists often use white noise makers or music in the waiting area to help drown out voices coming to and from the office.  However some people, especially New Yorkers, easily overpower these feeble instruments, making it difficult for both client and therapist to focus on the problems being addressed.  As soon as my concentration gets impaired because of outside noise, I immediately begin to perceive my client as being cheated.  He paid for a session and deserves my full time and attention.  That's when I tend to take out my can of Shut-Your-Mouth, open my office door and politely but <em>firmly</em> ask anyone in the waiting room to do shut up.<br />
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         <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 23:58:02 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>Dr. John is the Man</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>When <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/good_news.phtml ">Dr. John</a> and I were in graduate school we took part in a study that was attempting to measure the accuracy of first impressions [1].  The study involved a group of undergraduate students who rated each other on dozens of personality variables (e.g., likeability, gregariousness, introversion, etc.) at an initial group meeting.  Then the students would spend weeks and weeks together, kind of like some academic reality show, only to rate their peers again on the same variables at the end of the study.  </p>

<p>At the time John and I were in our fourth year of graduate training so we were considered experts in personality.  Our job was to watch hours of video tape showing the students interacting together, both in group settings and one-on-one dialogues.  Based on what we watched we too rated the students on the same personality variables.  Comparing the students' initial takes on each other with both their later ratings as well as the "experts'" opinions would ideally shed some light on how accurate first impressions are.</p>

<p>John and I got together a few times per week in this small room (the "lab") on the top floor of our university's main building.  We were actually in a tower and I would incessantly suggest that John let his long hair flow out the window like Rapunzel did.  He never found it all that funny.</p>

<p>When we watched the tapes I put on a white lab coat that I had found in the closet.  "You a real scientist now, Dobrenski?" John asked.<br />
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         <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:22:25 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>Management Hates Me</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>For reasons beyond my control, I needed to abruptly move out of my office to a new suite down the street.  It's actually in a better location, closer to major subway stops.  I've been there a few weeks now and it's become clear that the leasing/managing office prefers to handle tenants' issues in their own time and via their own methods.</p>

<p>The original plan was to have my name on the door of the office suite within 2-3 business days.  A week went by and nothing.  I knocked on management's office door at that time and the superintendent of the office simply yelled through the door.  "WHAT DO YOU WANT?"</p>

<p>"It's Rob Dobrenski, I need you to..."</p>

<p>"WHO?"</p>

<p>"Rob Dobrenski, in Suite 705.  I need you to put my name on both the suite door and the professional directory in the downstairs lobby so my clients can find me."</p>

<p>"WE ALREADY DID THAT."</p>

<p>I looked to my right and down the hall where my office is located.  Unless someone had snuck over there during this brief, loud conversation to put my name on the door with those acrylic letters, then tip-toed back past me, the job was not done.</p>

<p>"No, you didn't do that.  I need you to address this right away."<br />
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         <pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:51:05 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>Book Jacket</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>I joined a writing group to help me stay focused as I attempt to <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/an_announcement_1.phtml">write a book</a>.  It's a small club: five people who are all writing books of one sort of another, and we get together once per week.  We don't actually discuss the content of our writing, but rather we focus on the process of writing: <i>How do you get started on a particular chapter?  What variables, whether psychological or practical, get in the way of your writing?  What objectives for writing should you set for this week to help you complete your larger goal?</i>  Everyone is very supportive and bring out great ideas for staying on task.  In addition, the group leader, C, will ask us to complete interesting homework assignments to help keep motivation high.</p>

<p>This week, C asked us to imagine our books on the bookshelf.  She asked us to consider what we would like the brief reviews - the ones on the back of the jacket - to say about our book.  The reviews could be from whomever we choose and should say exactly what we are hoping to achieve.  This is a great exercise in <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/behavior_modification_1.phtml">behavior modification</a> and is often used in therapy.  For example, if you have a client who is working on smoking cessation, you get them to imagine what life will be like after they've achieved their goal.  <i>Picture it.  What will it feel like when you're able to run that 5K without coughing up black death?  See yourself crossing the finish line with bright and shiny white teeth instead of yellow and plaid-tinted incisors and breath that could kill Freddy Krueger.  Imagine your hair being simply sweaty instead of encrusted in smoke and cancer.</i>  </p>

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         <pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 12:22:57 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>DSM Labels: Are They Helpful?</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p><em>Dr. Rob,</p>

<p>Over the past few years I had noticed my mood taking a subtle nose dive and I decided to see a therapist.  After asking me millions of questions about myself, my parents, my wife and kids and everything else she could think of, she told me that I had <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysthymic_disorder">Dysthymic Disorder</a>.  I had never heard the term before and it kind of scared me.  I knew that I might have some mild depression but didn't think I qualified for anything in the DSM.  When the therapist explained to me that Dysthymic Disorder is basically a low-grade depression that lasts a long time I was slightly relieved but still felt a little uncomfortable because I now had this 'label' attached to me.  My question to you is do you agree with psychological diagnoses and why?</p>

<p>J.C.</em></p>

<p>A lot of people have very serious concerns about DSM labels, especially since psychology/psychiatry are soft sciences.  We can't put a dipstick into someone's head and measure how anxious or sad he is, so how do we definitively label someone with an illness we can't even really see?  And <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/the_dsmivtr_is_stupid.phtml">I've bashed the DSM-IV</a> before so I can't turn around now and be its best friend.  It's a flawed tool used by shrinks, no doubt about that.  However, part of the problem with the criticisms is the undue significance people place on mental health diagnoses.</p>

<p>In the simplest terms, a 'diagnosis' is a social construct.  It's a collection of 'symptoms' that shrinks pull together to create a system for communication.  Life becomes remarkably easier when you can say 'this person suffers from <em>schizophrenia</em>' and have another professional know to some degree what you are talking about.  In many ways, diagnoses are simply shorthand.  Today diagnoses are also required for insurance companies but that wasn't the original plan when they were developed.<br />
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         <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:34:29 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>Some People Don&apos;t Like You: Get Used to It</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>I had a friend in college who insisted that not a single person on Earth disliked her.  This is not to say that she believed everyone <em>liked</em> her, or even <em>preferred</em> her; rather, that no one actively disfavored her.  "That's just not my personality," she said.  "I don't rub people the wrong way.  Maybe that's true for you too."  </p>

<p>I was particularly puzzled by this assertion because I could easily have named a dozen people who hated my guts and another three who had bashed this very friend the night before.  "<em>God</em> she rubs me the wrong way," they all agreed.  "She's such a bitch.  I'd like to put her face on fire and then stub it out with a pitchfork."</p>

<p>If my friend ever knew these people felt this way about her she would have been not only terrified for her face, but would have been psychologically devastated.  She truly believed (or at least really wanted to) that she was free from the disdain of others.  <br />
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         <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:11:14 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>A Brief Interview with Dr. Rob</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>If you're an adult whose name isn't <a href="http://www.shrinktalk.net/archives/dr_pete.phtml">Dr. Pete</a> you probably have at least one former significant other in your life.  Hopefully you're curious enough about your past to learn something from it as you move forward into more ideal relationships.  If so you need to check out Jen Straw's weekly piece "Meet the Exes."  This week she interviewed me in hopes of getting some trenchant, ground-breaking psychological insights into learning from prior romances.  While I doubt she got what she was looking for I did try to contribute in some meaningful way.  Below is an excerpt.  </p>

<p>Head on over to <a href="http://www.missattitude.us/meet-the-exes-monday/health-hazard-meet-exes-32">MissAttitude.Us</a> for the complete interview. </p>

<blockquote><em>Q. It's been suggested to me that I'm not going to meet someone better suited for me if I keep focusing on the past negative situations. Do you think there's any truth to that?</em>

<p>A. There's truth to that only if your hyper-focus doesn't allow you to see new and better situations for what they are. There's no shame in remembering the negatives of life; it shows you've been paying attention and makes you less naive going forward. But when people have been burned they tend to associate any similarity, no matter how small or trivial, with the original offense. This is where it becomes problematic. The goal is finding a balance between using what you've learned and being open to what is fresh and new. I'm currently writing a book that probably won't teach you how to do that, but you should buy it anyway.</blockquote></p>]]></description>
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